The Knowledge of Saving Faith

I feel like mulling over Calvinism (a.k.a. Reformed Theology, a.k.a.The Doctrines of Grace) today. The first thing that jumps at me is the re-branding that’s been done to it over the years. Something about it has proved troubling enough that the same product has been placed in new packaging in an attempt to sell it to those who were turned off by the original packaging. The last two names are fairly new; so the re-branding is a recent effort. Perhaps they think it’ll be a better sell, “We’re called Christianity – we can’t be going around promoting John Calvin’s teachings as more important than the guy our religion is named after!” Or “We don’t want to be associated with that kind of Calvinism that didn’t get it quite right and has disgraced what true Calvinists believe – so we’ll call it Reformed Theology or The Doctrines of Grace and try to get right this time.

Now I know of Calvinism as quite basically, TULIP:

  • Total Depravity: (a.k.a. Total Inability) all mankind is sinful through and through, his will, his emotion, and his thinking. Every part of a human being is corrupted by sin.
  • Unconditional Election: before creation, God has chosen some people for salvation and some people for damnation – not because of who they are or anything they had done or would do.
  • Limited Atonement: (a.k.a. Particular Redemption, a.k.a. Definite Atonement) Christ’s blood atones for the sins of the elect.
  • Irresistible Grace: (a.k.a. Efficacious Grace) The Holy Spirit enables the elect to come to saving knowledge and faith in God, they cannot resist God’s grace.
  • Perseverance of the Saints:(a.k.a. Perseverance of God With the Saints) The elect cannot lose their faith or salvation, God will see to it that they will continue in the faith.

Yet when I asked about Reformed Theology, some additional parameters were factored into it:

The Five Solas (Which seem to me to be saying Protestants are right, Catholics are wrong.)

  • Sola Fide, by faith alone. (Works won’t save you.)
  • Sola Scriptura, by Scripture alone. (Tradition won’t save you.)
  • Solus Christus, through Christ alone. (Salvation is by grace through faith alone in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.)
  • Sola Gratia, by grace alone. (Works won’t save you.)
  • Soli Deo Gloria, glory to God alone. (Everything that is done is done for God’s glory.)

Having established how not-Catholic your beliefs, you, you get to have:

  • an extremely profound view of the Sovereignty of God: “What do we mean by [the sovereignty of God]? We mean the supremacy of God, the kingship of God, the god-hood of God. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that God is God. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the Most High, doing according to His will in the army of Heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, so that none can stay His hand or say unto Him what doest Thou? (Dan. 4:35). To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the Almighty, the Possessor of all power in Heaven and earth, so that none can defeat His counsels, thwart His purpose, or resist His will (Psa. 115:3). To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is “The Governor among the nations” (Psa. 22:28), setting up kingdoms, overthrowing empires, and determining the course of dynasties as pleaseth Him best. To say that God is Sovereign is to declare that He is the “Only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords” (1 Tim. 6:15). Such is the God of the Bible.“” A. W. Pink, The Sovereignty of God, chapter 1.
  • to be a five-point Calvinist (it’s all or nothing, here; it’s also to affirm how not-Arminian your beliefs are.)
  • to affirm the great creeds of the church (they all seem to be basic summaries of traditional beliefs such as the gospel):

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven, by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary and became truly human. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]. Who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. Who has spoken through the prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. ” – The Nicene Creed

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell. The third day He arose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting. Amen. – The Apostles’ Creed

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith;Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensibles, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty; And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord; And yet they are not three Lords, but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every person by himself to be God and Lord; so are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say: There are three Gods or three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. And in this Trinity none is afore, nor after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three persons are co-eternal, and co-equal. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man. God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and made of the substance of His mother, born in the world. Perfect God and perfect man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood. Who, although He is God and man, yet He is not two, but one Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of the manhood into God. One altogether, not by the confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead; He ascended into heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty; From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies; And shall give account of their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved. – Athanasian Creed (though it seems to me those who are debating about the Eternal Subordination of the Son, a.k.a. the Eternal Relationship of Authority and Submission seem to not really know this one that well, so it might be optional.)

Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood, truly God and truly man, consisting also of a reasonable soul and body; of one substance with the Father as regards his Godhead, and at the same time of one substance with us as regards his manhood; like us in all respects, apart from sin; as regards his Godhead, begotten of the Father before the ages, but yet as regards his manhood begotten, for us men and for our salvation, of Mary the Virgin, the God-bearer; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten, recognized in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation; the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union, but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence, not as parted or separated into two persons, but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ; even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us, and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us. – The Definition of Chalcedon (See also, the Anathemas of the 2nd Council of Constantinople for further details.)

  • to affirm one or more (more is always better than less) confessions of the church:

Westminster Confession (there are twenty nine chapters! Not including the additions or the modifications or expositions thereof)
Augsburg Confession, Scottish Confession of Faith, Cannons of Dordt, Baptist Confession of Faith. (Take your pick. I’m not really sure what to make of them or why they’re important or what purpose they serve – I’m guessing a summary of Calvinism and Christianity in the context of application at church?)

  • to affirm the covenants in Scripture – (no clue on what to make of all these or what they have to do with me.)

covenant of works – (a.k.a.) covenant of life (a.k.a.) covenant of creation. It was made in the Garden of Eden between Good and Adam who represented all mankind as a federal head. It promised life for perfect and perpetual obedience and death for disobedience. It continues to function as the moral law.
covenant of grace – promises eternal life for all who have faith in Christ, promises the Holy Spirit to the elect to enable them to believe.
Covenant of redemption – the eternal agreement within the Godhead in which the Father appointed the Son to become human and die as a federal head to make a substitution atonement for sin. In return, God promises to raise Christ from the dead, glorify him, and give him a people. (I’m not really sure how we know about this one. I’m imagining a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors where Father, Son and Spirit chose Rock, Paper, Scissors respectively.)
Adamic Covenant – a covenant of works which failed.
Noahic Covenant – something about a rainbow, I think.
Abrahamic Covenant – God makes promises to Abraham which really aren’t about Abraham at all, he’s a stand-in for the Christian church which God will bring about hundreds of years into the future.
Mosaic Covenant – Basically the Law of Moses, the creation of the temple worship system.
Moabite Covenant – Something about circumcision of the heart, I think.
Davidic Covenant – God promises that David’s descendants will reign forever as a foreshadowing of Jesus.
New Covenant – Replaces temple worship with Jesus’ substitutionary atonement.

  • It means to take seriously the Great Commission, preaching and teaching to all nations, making disciples – that sort of thing. (Except you don’t have to bother with the not-elect, they can’t be saved and are a waste of resources.)
  • And it means to have a distinctly Christian worldview about absolutely everything. (Possibly meaning be a Young-Earth Creationist and a Complementarian?)

Does all that make sense to you? To me, it doesn’t. Every time I look at it, try to search these terms online, I hit roadblocks. It’s frustrating and has probably made me a little cynical about the whole thing. A lot of the time it’s people talking sort of funny – constantly backing up these ideas with words and numbers called Bible references that seem to stretch on endlessly. Sure, you’ll find all of it somewhere in the Bible. And all sorts of things that are in the Bible but not mentioned somewhere in the list. Sometimes they use big -ism or -tion words. Or it could be a reference to a teaching or concept that they expect you to already know – “eschatology”. There are too many conversations going on that I can’t follow – so I don’t even try. Sometimes it’s nuanced to no end, as if the author is trying to tie up every loose end and dot every i and cross every t. I can’t imagine the first ten minutes of heaven including a pop quiz where this material is essential to salvation. It’s almost contradictory, isn’t it? To believe in “faith alone” and yet be “confessional, creedal, and covenantal”?

I try my best to educate myself on these things – so that I can speak something of the language of those who believe in it – but I can’t help but feel as if it’s all missing the forest for the trees. When I read about what Jesus taught, he used simple parables: “A woman lost a few coins. She emptied out her entire house, cleaned it top to bottom, searched high and low until she found them. Then she called up her friends and had a party!” (if they weren’t “elect” coins she needed not have bothered. Perhaps they were “elect” coins and it shows that God will do anything to find them.) “A fisherman cast his nets wide, when he hauled in the fish, he counted every last one – there were hundreds of them!” (They must all have been “elect” fish, not “elect” fish must not have been netted.) “Heaven’s like a tall tree, birds of every kind come to it and call it home.” (I got nothing on this one.) I get it that in Jesus’ day, people just weren’t as educated – but let’s not kid ourselves, just because we use fancy -ism and -tion words it doesn’t mean that we’re guaranteed salvation based on what we know.

What I don’t like, most of all, is how utterly confusing it all is. Parts of it affirm parts of Scripture, but having read the whole book myself, I know that parts of it de-emphasize other parts of Scripture that are contradictory to what it affirms to be true. Like trying to define the incomprehensible is trying to explain everything in the Bible and yet that’s all it seems to be doing. Every now and then I challenge somebody to explain it to me – but nobody ever does. The thing is – I’m aware that Christians were born and raised, lived and died, were converted into some basic form of Christianity for hundreds of years before Calvinism appeared on the scene. And that’s what I’d like to think that I believe in. The same saving faith taught by the apostles to the early church, handed down from one generation to the next – no bells and whistles.

So what’s the appeal of Calvinism to you? Can you explain it to me?


4 thoughts on “The Knowledge of Saving Faith


    The proponents of salvation by faith alone state that water baptism is an outward sign of an inward grace. Is this a correct doctrine? Yes. The problem is in the explanation of that statement. Faith only advocates say that water baptism is simply a symbolic reenactment of forgiveness that occurred at the moment a person believed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, Lord and Savior. The Scriptures do not teach that as a fact.


    Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

    Men are baptized into Christ Jesus. Men do not believe only into Jesus. Men are baptized into His death, they do not believe into His death.

    Romans 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father,so we too might walk in newness of life.

    We are buried with Christ in baptism so we can walk in newness of life. We walk in newness of life after water baptism not the moment we believe.

    Romans 6:5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection.

    We are united with Christ in baptism. We are not united with Christ the very minute we believe. Water baptism symbolizes the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.

    Romans 6:6-7 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body, of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who has died is free from sin.

    You are baptized in water so the body of sin might be done away with and be free from sin. If men become believers in Christ and then wait one year before being baptized, they are spending that year not having their old self crucified with Christ. They spend a year not being free from sin.

    Galatians 3:26-27 For you are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

    They were clothed with Christ when they were baptized into Him.They were not clothed with Christ the moment they had faith.

    Colossians 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

    You are raised up in baptism, in the faith of the working God. Men are raised up by a combination of faith and baptism. Men are not raised by “faith only” nor are they raised before they are baptized.

    Colossians 2:12-13…..When you were dead in your transgression and uncircumcision of you flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

    When are men dead in their transgressions? They are dead before they have faith and are baptized in water.

    Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, “Repent and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    Peter had already preached Jesus as Lord and Christ. Peter had already preached the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. They were still in their sins. They were not saved the minute they believed. They needed to repent and be baptized in order to have their sins forgiven and to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    Faith, confession, and repentance precede water baptism. Water baptism is the point of forgiveness of sins.

    Water baptism is not an empty symbolic rite demonstrating what happen the very moment men believe.











    1. Greetings. The last time you posted here, you left a similarly long comment:
      But didn’t actually interact with the content of blog. Seems like nothing has changed. I’m talking about Calvinism and I didn’t mention baptism except in the Nicene Creed. As far as I know, the Westminster Confession teaches that Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are the two sacraments of the church that are “signs and seals of the covenant of grace.” You’ll have to take it up with Calvinists on what they mean when they talk about baptism; I don’t really know – that’s why I’m talking about Calvinism, to figure it all out or make some sense of it. I was not talking about baptism.

      The best ‘hook’ to get people to come to your blog isn’t an off-topic list of verses that you connect to a central idea; it’s a thoughtful comment that adds to the discussion about the content of the blog. It’s when you offer an opinion, a story, explain something about what was said or even disagree with a particular point. Anyone can post a list of verses and say that they’re connected even when taken out of context; while it may mean something to you – to others it might not. Do you have an opinion on Calvinism? Am I wrong about the elect? Do I not understand some nuance of being confessional? Please interact with the content of the post next time, rather than posting a billboard to your own site.


  2. Sigh, this is one of the reasons Arminianism appeals to me. Too many logical inconsistencies in Calvinism, plus it subverts the Gospel message that God does not will that any should perish 2 Peter 3:9. Double predestination and total depravity set up a situation of determinism, which logically removes personal liability for “sin.”
    Saw an excellent post on Facebook this morning by Mike Kear that fits. A man was modeling a t-shirt that said: “CALVINISM…#somelivesmatter.” LOL.

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    1. I know that some Calvinists try to make a distinction – one illustration is that God doesn’t directly throw people into Hell, he just let’s them go there and doesn’t interfere with the process; whereas with the elect, he interferes and keeps them from going to Hell. Others aren’t afraid to say it outright: In as much as God elects some for salvation, he elects the rest for damnation – like Romans 9:22 suggests, we’re all pottery made to be destroyed, like clay targets – He just hasn’t opted to fire at us yet. It really doesn’t fit with the message that God loved the whole world, that he doesn’t want any to perish. There’s a lot of Bible verses that get confused when understood through Calvinism’s framework.

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